Ammo library
Debating Their Claims
Severity 3Taking the baitStep 2Step 3Step 7Step 8
Engages the non-vegan on argument merits instead of holding them accountable.
The give pair
Gives ammo
Well actually, studies show that plant agriculture also kills animals, so you're being hypocritical too.
Gives nothing
I'm not here to debate. I asked you a question: do you agree that humans should respect other animals?
The round they fire back
Escalates debate, demands proof, introduces plants/lions/religion semantics, or frames veganism as optional lifestyle.
How to fix it
Justice is not up for debate. Do not play the science game. Repeat your accountability question calmly.
Related lessons
- Say agree, not believe The frame
- Never consent framing Exploitation, not suffering
- When they lecture you on outreach Holding the room
- Deflection or non-answer = strike Holding the room
- Deflection loop scenario (common trap) Holding the room
- Justice is not up for debate Ammo discipline
- All humans: justice not personal choice Working the flowchart
- Protein / health sincerity test Refusing the tangent and delivering it well
- Don't get philosophical The activist's mindset
- Three strikes, disengage The activist's mindset