Skip to content
veganism.help

Essay

Exploitation, not suffering

Hold the use frame. Suffering language loses the edge cases.

02Exploitation, not suffering

The argument is about using someone who does not want to be used. Symptom talk about welfare and suffering hands over ground you cannot win back.

Suffering and treatment are not the problem

When you make it about suffering, harm, or how animals are treated, they think that is the problem to solve — humane farming, backyard eggs, better conditions. The problem is using someone for your purposes at all. See also: the symptom language trap.

Gave ammo

Veganism is about reducing suffering. Look how this cow is suffering.

Gives nothing

The issue is exploitation — using them for your purposes. Do you agree that is wrong?

The symptom language trap

When you frame the issue as suffering, harm, abuse, killing, or pain, the bystander agrees cruelty is bad. That feels like progress, but you set the wrong problem. They will try to solve suffering, not exploitation: humane farming, backyard eggs, roadkill, leftovers, hunting, rescued hens who 'choose' to lay. You end up adjudicating edge cases instead of holding them to respect and purposes. Recovery: stop debating whether their version is okay. Reassert step 3: can you truly respect other animals if you use them for your purposes? Or step 8: how many more should be exploited because of you, zero or more? The root wrong is using someone for your purposes, not how much they suffer.

Gave ammo

Non-vegan: 'I eat roadkill and eggs from my rescued hens, no one suffers.' Activist: 'Well, roadkill is complicated, but factory farms are definitely cruel.'

Gives nothing

Non-vegan: 'I eat roadkill and eggs from my rescued hens, no one suffers.' Activist: 'I'm not asking whether they suffered. Can you respect them if you use them for your purposes?'

The industry is not the problem

Factory farming is a symptom of human supremacism — the idea that animals exist for us to use. Do not focus outreach on the industry, paying for products, or what is on the screens alone.

Because of you: not 'support' or 'demanding'

Never say support, paying, contributing, supply and demand, or demanding. All give escape routes, someone else creates demand, or they eat leftovers and roadkill. Say: these are your victims.

Gave ammo

You support the industry when you buy meat, you are demanding this.

Gives nothing

As long as you're not vegan, these are your victims.

Victim position — never dog comparisons

Do not ask how they would feel if this happened to a dog. Dogs are among the most exploited animals. Put the person you are speaking with in the victim's position: if this were happening to you, would it be acceptable?

Oppression analogies: when they work and when they don't

racism or sexism comparisons can be made but are usually less effective than victim position, because anything outside themselves is outside their self-interest. Do not equate the bystander to Holocaust or racism as your main attack. Valid analogy: in the time of slavery, should we have fought for freedom or for slaves to be treated better? That highlights why welfarism is not enough without calling them a slave owner.

Gave ammo

Eating animals is just like the Holocaust.

Gives nothing

In the time of slavery, would you agree we should have been fighting for freedom, or for slaves to be treated better?

Never consent framing

Never talk about consent. No one would consent to being exploited, ever. Stay on respect, purposes, and victim position.

Never say demanding

Never say demanding or talk about supply and demand. Someone else can create the demand; they may eat leftovers, roadkill, or get free tickets. Say: these are your victims.

Gave ammo

When you're not vegan, you are demanding this, supply and demand keeps the industry going.

Gives nothing

As long as you're not vegan, these are your victims.

Symptoms not root problem

Don't focus on symptoms, focus on the root problem. Symptoms include factory farming, industry, conditions, slaughterhouses, supply and demand, and treatment debates. Root: humans using other animals for their purposes (exploitation / human supremacism).

Gave ammo

Factory farms and the meat industry are the problem, we need better conditions and less cruelty.

Gives nothing

The root problem is exploitation, using someone for your purposes. Do you agree that is wrong?

Checkpoint

Spot the line that holds the frame. Pass each unit at 70% to complete the course and earn your certificate. Nothing is locked, and you can retake it as many times as you like.

Which line gives them nothing?
Which line gives them nothing?
Which line gives them nothing?
Which line gives them nothing?